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My politics on Israel
Hawk
About Me:
Conservative
Feelings About Israel
So goes Israel, so goes the planet.
Been to Israel?
Never Been but Want to
Your religion and denomination
Christian
Who did you prefer in the 2008 US Election?
McCain
Who is your preferred Israeli leader?
Netanyahu
Your relationship status:
Married
Age Range
under 18
Regarding smoking, I:
am vehemently opposed
Regarding alcohol, I:
abstain
Regarding drugs, I:
don't indulge
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The following is a copy of my last post of substance.

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COME TOGETHER OR PERISH ALONE

We must set aside our petty differences and move forward against our common enemies with solidarity...


"We all have an interest, for example, in preventing terrorism, in combating violent extremism, in deterring potential aggressors, in halting the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and related technology, in reducing the trade in illegal narcotics, in countering piracy, and in ensuring the free flow of commerce and the security of strategic infrastructure."
--GEN David Petraeus, CENTCOM Cmdr.


All of us must grasp hold of the gravity of our times. While our house is burning, we argue with the gardener over the way the lawn was cut. Sometimes I think it is easier to bicker about how this religious group is diluting that religious group's whatever than to look reality in the face. Brothers, our freedom and safety are in danger of flying away on moth's wings. Violent Islamic extremists are closing their ranks. They are garnering support in the West, and coalescing their power in the Middle East and Europe. They are winning. They are winning because we refuse to pocket our religious ideologies for one minute and build abiding relationships with each other based on respect and self-preservation. There will be no place for us to bicker if we fail to recognise this.


"... the objective is to strengthen relationships and increase defensive and deterrent capabilities in pursuit of common interests, thereby enhancing security in the region..."
--GEN David Petraeus, CENTCOM Cmdr.


Pause and ask yourself, What is my objective? Stop wasting effort, Christians and Jews, "lining each other out" on religious beliefs. Let God sort it out. If we would quit this destructive pattern, and repent - yes, repent - of our divisiveness toward one another for one lousy minute, I believe God will bless us and strike our enemies down without our even lifting a finger. Enough of this religious talk.


"The lack of sustainable economic development in certain parts of this region, for example, is not just a social or humanitarian issue it is a serious security concern as well. Without economic opportunity, poor and disenfranchised communities can serve as hotbeds for the spread of violent extremism, eventually even becoming failed states."
--GEN David Petraeus, CENTCOM Cmdr.

Sound like someplace you know? Help the Palestinians to build their economy. Take the moral high ground. Separate the reconcilables from the irreconcilables. Build up the former. Take out the latter. I personally think many of our enemies are lost causes, that they will never reconcile, but we must go above and beyond the norms of regular compassion in order to build up the few who will live alongside us in peace.


"Concerted persistent efforts will be required ... but they are worth the effort as they will not only enhance our collective defensive capability, they will also serve as a very important manifestation of our collective will and our collective deterrent posture."
--GEN David Petraeus, CENTCOM Cmdr.


What does your collective will manifest?

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At 10:24am on March 6, 2009, Linda Clapp said…
Dear CHV, As you obviously understand 'A House Divided againist Itself can not Stand'- I reach out.-- Religious Division is very nonconducive to any possibility of solution (divides the house of supporters)-yes it does. Your support for Israel has been true (when the questions of why and accusations of the reasons are not 'good' enough have been thrown at you)- you have reacted with grace and respect and strength. True to your name! When your head clears, and your short life has more time--I, for one, miss your imput.
At 10:06am on February 24, 2009, kkeene said…
Hi CHV, Greetings from Yerushaláyim, I don't want to go back to LA! :) I hope you stick around. Love, Kevin
At 8:11am on February 24, 2009, Michael D. Ballantine said…
The overseas brigade is a great idea. Too bad it is completely illegal in the US. The constitution has some provision about the forming of private armies. Everyone would need to have Israeli passports and then they could be organized into a reserve force. However everyone would need to register with the US govt as belonging to this entity. A pity.

What do you think of the current political impasse? I don't think Bibi can organize a govt. He needs Shas and Lieberman and I don't think they can be in the same coalition. Any thoughts?
At 5:21am on February 24, 2009, Linda Clapp said…
Please, friend-- Don't leave!!! This is just the sort of thing that thrills 'the enemy'. I have a feeling that you know that, but I'm putting it out there anyway. I've been reading your notes for over 1/2 a year now, and think you are a very steady thinker. The attacks of the last few days (misunderstandings--whatevers) have been harsh. I think you were caught in an ongoing and unresolvable 'smash-down'-- but, I know this won't stop your true objective-- to add your support for Israel. Blessings to you.
At 1:22pm on February 23, 2009, Michael D. Ballantine said…
A pity. You seem to have a sense of the bigger picture. I imagine that if the messiah arrived tomorrow, they would imprison him or stone him for saying anti-zionist slogans. :-)

This site is a perfect representation of Israeli politics.
At 9:31am on February 21, 2009, wharold said…
chv, thanks for thinking I make thoughtful comments; sometimes it happens despite myself. It is good to rest a while for life is indeed short and this conflict in ripe with, um, conflictions.

You struck the nail on the head: So goes Israel, so goes the planet.
At 7:23am on February 21, 2009, Gray said…
Hello chv,
Where to start:
First, "ABN" stands for "Airborne" .I'm sure you knew this but I wasn't sure you were connecting it with Israel, Zionism or ironwork.
As far as IDF & war crimes, this was sent to me recently:
http://www.thelancetglobalhealthnetwork.com/archives/608
but I'll spare relating to you things you'll see or come to believe as long as you keep that open mind.
I spent some time in a Palestinian refugee camp in 1973. The photos and experiences they related to me over the weeks seemed just as compelling as memories of Holocaust survivors.
Zionism and/or the actions of its adherents engender more anti Jewish sentiment than anything. Am I mistaken or did you cite "super Zionist" as an affinity?
Concerning something entirely different, I've been blacksmithing for about 20 years; everything from Civil War cannon parts, gates, sculpture, reproduction Elizabethan fireplace and medical artifacts, bell towers (12' etc) bathroom fixtures, life sized skeletons, harpoon heads, archeological and geological research tools etc etc.
Again, many thanks & take care
Gray
At 3:11am on February 21, 2009, Gray said…
Hello chv,
Many thanks, again. Your open minded and rational view is tremendously uplifting concerning an issue so volatile.
A day without puerile insults at these forums rarely passes; if they were only creative......like "Blowing bubbles from the shallow end of the Think Tank" or something.
I've found that open mindedness or the willingness to see things as they really are (harder than it sounds) is indispensable in surviving adverse situations and just generally sorting things out.
I'm curious as to what attracts one to Zionism. I'm aware of it's philosophical, Utopian/Idealist facet but instances of its successful, practical application seems difficult to reconcile with realistic durability .
Take care and thanks for the kind words...
At 2:51pm on February 20, 2009, Michael D. Ballantine said…
David is alright, it's my middle name and reminds me of the uphill struggle one fights to get their ideas heard. Much of what I have to say is bunk, but trying to sort through the detritus to get at the real gems is the challenge. Writing these blogs challenging others lets me see the validity or the lunacy of some of everyone's ideas. I am trying to develop a new paradigm amalgamating communism and capitalism. Kind of keep the good parts and throw out the bad as it applies to the real world. With that I think Israel is a prime example, given the history of the kibbutz and the capitalist nature of many Israelis. However the political system is a complete wash. Anyway, I welcome your ideas and thoughts.
At 11:34am on February 20, 2009, Michael D. Ballantine said…
Having read the history of the volunteers that flew to Israel to support the fledgling nation, the statement is appropriate. I believe they had a 20-30% casualty rate. They basically got off the plane picked up a gun and went straight to the front lines. No period of adjustment for the desert heat, no training in the use of a gun and didn't speak Hebrew. G-d they were brave.

Thanks for your bit of support. I often get called an anti-semite because I question the established theory of of what is politically correct. But when one's philosophy will lead to self-annihilation or extinction if not reconsidered then it is prudent to begin to question what you are doing. Israel is one American president away from isolation. Not a very good foundation.
 
 

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