What didn't he know and when didn't he know it?

[couragehonorvalor]

Let's go back in time. It's 1995, you're a young, intelligent, up-and-coming community organiser in Chicago looking to rise up and run for the State Senate. You're told that there's a guy that you have to meet. His name is Bill Ayres. Maybe have some coffee at his house. Meet Bernadene, the wife.

Now, what's the first thing that comes to your mind?

1) Who the h_ll is is Bill Ayres?
2) Why should I go over to his house?
3) How is this going to help me get a Senate seat?

You don't ask. Nobody told you. You worked in Chicago for how many years as a community organiser and never heard of Bill Ayres? Fine.

According to Obama Senior Adviser Robert Gibbs (in an interview with Joe Scarborough at 'Time') that when he (Obama) went to that event at Ayres' household he didn't know Ayres was a terrorist.

One problem.

Ayres recruited Obama for the Woods Fund in 1995. However, some time afterward (after coffee meeting) you did learn that he was indited on Federal charges, made the FBI's 10 most wanted...

Or did the coffee come first - for the political campaign, or the Woods Fund?

We need a time line here.

Met Bill Ayres. (You don't know he's a terrorist.)

Had coffee to kick off a Senate run. (You don't know he's a terrorist.)

Worked with Ayres for a few years - responsible for disbursing 50 million dollars through Ayres' foundation - Chicago Annenberg Challenge. (You don't know he's a terrorist?.)

Sometime later... (You discover he's a terrorist.)

I'm confused.

Right.

You readily admit that you continued to work with Ayres after having learned that he bombed the Pentagon. Not smart, but you did it. Yet before the coffee clutch, you had no idea of Ayres' colorful past.

Can you remember when you learned this and who told you? What were your thoughts when you found this out?

Cut the crap.

Please don't try to pass off to us that the people who introduced you to Ayres never told you that well, he um, did have a little scrape with the law back in the 60's... Between your acceptance of the position at the Woods Fund and that meeting, you didn't know. Hmm. Please don't insult our intelligence.

There's a lot to digest, and you need to tell the story right.

The whole story line here is laughable, Mr. Harvard Law Scholar.

[maria]

Hi, new here my first time. It baffles me to see the apathy of everyone in general, your raised concerns are quite obvious, yet not many people have made enough "noise" about it and to many other questions as well, a reasonable explanation remains at large. Now that the election is over what you find is that most people have conformed and accepted no results and have adopted a commandable but frightening actitute of nonimportance saying "well he is out president now and we should support him 100%.". Well to me, that he was elected does not warrant my blind support, I can not and will not support anyone that does not respect our Country and what our Nation stands for, I think as true American your loyalty should be to your Country first, not to an individual whose obscure background, has not been defined as of yet. I created a poem as a result of this apathy sweeping the Country, I like to include it wherever I can, not to find praise, but to wake up some perhaps dormant patriotic sentiments on some of us.


LIBERTY

I gave you a voice, for you could be heard...
I gave you a land, of riches beyond belief...
I was forever vigilant, protected, guided you..
I sheltered all with open arms, comforted you...

Now vested of deep sorrow, unnoticed in silence I weep...
for some of my sons and daughters, to my rape have fallen, deaf and silent....
for some of you, have stood indiferent to this relentless siege....
oblivious of those, whose blood for you they have shed....

As you side with those that wounded me,..
that defecated my flag, degraded my honor....
in pursuance of false ideals, you have abandoned me...
I AM YOUR CONSTITUTION, YOUR COUNTRY, YOUR NATION!!!
forsaken by your blind quest, filled by your delusional null ambitions...
I am rendered helpless as you, foolishly relinquish my most precious asset:
YOUR FREEDOM!!!

[couragehonorvalor]

Maria,

Thanks for the reply, this was a joke piece I did (seemingly) a long time ago...

Your poem shows to me positive things about your character. Naturally, I'm with you wholeheartedly.

Pleased to continue discourse with you. Time is short for me this evening, will make a point to follow up in a couple of days.

Regards,

chv

[Sara Abbott]

I agree with you. Can I make a copy of your poem? I can't see how a man that claims to be a Christian can be "pro choice and support gay rights," and he can never answer a direct question. It is such a patriotic thing to place your hand on your heart for the "Pledge of Allegiance" and that man can't even do that. I still believe he is Muslim, otherwise he would tell them like it is and stand up for this country! Wht were people so blind? We need to pray!

[Linda Clapp]

Dear CourageHonorValor, what you wrote for a little joke-piece--gave me a stress-relieving laugh at the time.. Thanks. Now, this simple little page is touching the hearts of the new Babys to our club. Hard to believe I was one such infant just a few short months ago. I want to ask o a guestion--"dear mr. constitutional lawyer, fine maker of speeches with little content, cover-up master, tip-of-the-plot which has toppled the World's Economy and desires to destroy what you call the American empire, mr. no-friend of Israel, and 'acquaintance' of most of the Bad Guys who hate America, Israel, and the Almighty---Exactly what actual documents are you taking to the Supreme Court??? I bet if the Supreme Justices asked the serious questions asked above, o would plead the 5th. For real, this looks like a case of self-incrimination--to the Max. Dear Maria, your poem is a blessing. Dear Sara, welcome. I encourage you to read thru the forums going back into last summer. You'll find many answers to your questions. The members here are Truth-seekers and have searched and researched and honestly begun to document . O and friends give no answers but 'they' can't stop us from demanding the Questions.